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Is a .22 LR Good Enough?

Last week a news story out of Arlington, TX caught my attention. A pharmacist named Rick Ray, who owns Arlington Pharmacy, was beaten pretty severely with a tire iron by a man wearing a Halloween mask after Ray refused to give the man medication. Ray is only here to tell his story because of the .22 LR Derringer, like the Bond Arms Derringer shown above, that he used to stop the attack.

Watch the story here, my thoughts below.

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The caliber wars have been going on longer than the Hundred Years’ War, with many battles and a LOT of posturing. I’m not trying to fan that flame here, but I would like to discuss the reality of the “good enough” question using this real life story as an example. Is a .22 LR good enough for self-defense?

Stopping the Attack

Most of the self-defense instructors I’ve known/trained with teach to “shoot until the attack stops”, and I think this makes a lot of sense. In my experience, people respond well to goal oriented training, regardless of the type. Whether the application is sports, the workplace, self-defense or something else, I think having a goal is important as I believe it helps provide the proper mindset for your training.

In the situation above, Ray stopped the attack. He shot his attacker, presumably once, with a .22. This reminds me of an instructor I had a while back, who was a particularly entertaining old guy and longtime Texas cop that said, “99 times out of 100, you only need to change the attacker’s priorities. Pull your pocket pistol, pop him [the attacker], if he keeps coming, pop him again. Once he starts leaking [bleeding], all of the sudden he’s gonna have bigger priorities than whatever he was trying to do to you.”

I think that makes a lot of sense from a certain perspective, and he said it in response to why he recommended pocket 380’s like the popular Ruger LCP to people as a concealed carry gun. They are small and easy to conceal, can be drawn from a pocket, and are “usually enough” to change an attacker’s priorities.

But is “usually” good enough for you?

Stopping the Attacker

I submit that while stopping the attack is the most important thing (your immediate problem), stopping the attacker is perhaps a better mindset.

The man that Ray shot with a .22 ended up running away, so yes Mr. Ray successfully stopped the attack. But the bad guy, a man that was willing to kill someone with a tire iron for pills, is still out there, and will likely attack again. Maybe the next time the outcome will be much worse. If someone attacks you, do you want to stop him only to give him the chance to come back and take revenge, maybe on your loved ones? I don’t.

This is why I prefer “Stopping the Attacker” as a mindset over “Stopping the Attack”. I understand that there are perhaps legal reasons why people don’t make this distinction, and I’m certainly not encouraging excessive force. What I am encouraging is that if you are attacked by a lunatic with a tire iron, that if possible, you have more to greet said bad guy with than a couple shots of .22.

Can you stop an attacker with a .22? Absolutely, with proper shot placement, a lot of skill and perhaps a little luck it can be done, but personally I don’t want to take that chance. I think Mr. Ray said it best when he said that he wished he’d had his .357 with him, and that he’s very fortunate to have survived.

In my opinion, when confronted with a deadly attack, your goal shouldn’t be to scare off the bad guy, it should be to put him down.

Wrapping Up

So is a .22 LR good enough? Like a lot of questions in life, there is no right or wrong answer.

Hearing the story of Mr. Ray, there’s no question that he is a lucky man to be alive. Had he missed with his Derringer, had there been more than one attacker, or had the stars not aligned so well for him on that night, he’d probably be dead now. I’m just not willing to take that chance, so for me, the answer is no.

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18 Responses to Is a .22 LR Good Enough?

  1. Coachpan October 30, 2012 at 10:44 am #

    As they say; anything is better than nothing! But I would rather at least have my M&P Shield 9mm with Critical Duty load !!

  2. Chip October 30, 2012 at 10:59 am #

    Get a gun you’ll carry. Erring on the side of a smaller caliber that you will always have on your person is far better than going for the big bore that will decorate your gun safe at home.

    The .22 derringer pictured above is one choice but do consider the range of other great carry pistols out there. Several 9mm carry pistols are pretty darn foolproof (they’ll go bang when you pull the trigger) – Glock G26, Springfield XD Sub-compact are two particularly fine examples.

    Whatever you get do put in the practice time – the gun you’re carrying is only as good as your ability to get it out and use it to hit the target.

  3. Mitch C October 30, 2012 at 11:01 am #

    I couldn’t agree more with coachpan. I love my 9mm Shield and I believe that at least a quality 9mm hollow point for personal defense.

  4. Judd R October 30, 2012 at 11:59 am #

    Caring a “larger” caliber is always the best way to go but sometimes because of a variety of reasons (read that restrictions) we can’t. Enter the 22 derringer. My belief is that you need to carry something that can save your life. If the bad guy turns tail and runs and your still alive, whatever you were caring worked.

  5. TK October 30, 2012 at 12:11 pm #

    If it’s all you have…then fine. But if you don’t HAVE to bet your life on a .22, don’t.

  6. HEP-T October 30, 2012 at 12:18 pm #

    An old post from Snipers hid shows a test to determine the striking power of a .22lr on a turkey bought from a store at ranges up to 300 yards.

    http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=504301&fpart=1

  7. HEP-T October 30, 2012 at 12:22 pm #

    I use a S&W M-640 with .38 spl 110 gr JHP as a carry. Real business I get the 1911A1 series 70 govt model.
    The .22lr is like a .25 ACP you use tactics to work, allow perp to close range then stick barrel into perps ear and squeeze.

    • Dr. L. October 30, 2012 at 6:45 pm #

      Uh, you are correct, sir. A .22 or .25 caliber bullet shot into the ear hole would stop a perp. But it might look like you were doing a hit, and not self defense.
      That said, I’m carrying a .380 but I prefer a 9mm.

    • TK October 30, 2012 at 8:07 pm #

      Your plan is to let the bad guy get close enough to stick the gun in his ear? That’s a horrible plan.

  8. Ebbs October 31, 2012 at 3:13 pm #

    If I had to carry a .22 I can guarantee it would be a mucho high cap mag and I’d have a dozen shots into the perp rather than just 1 for him to consider whether or not he’s bleeding.

    Common sense says if I’m going to the trouble to carry, I’ll use a more viable round. My common sense is different from others no doubt.

  9. Frank Sharpe November 1, 2012 at 10:45 am #

    Do we really know the .22 “stopped” him?

    Perhaps he realized he was being shot at and ran. In which case a starter pistol firing blanks would have worked.

    I would guess he didn’t even know he was shot.

    If we are bothering to carry a gun, then we should carry one in the largest caliber and highest capacity we are comfortable with. To me the issue isn’t if a .22 is good enough under certain circumstances. The issue is being as prepared as possible for worst-case-scenario.

    • Brandon November 1, 2012 at 10:49 am #

      Yeah, the .22 was a psychological stop at best.

  10. ORRonin November 2, 2012 at 1:35 am #

    I have seen this argument go on for over 50 years. Is a .22 enough gun? Is it better or worse than a .25 ACP?

    What I carry depends upon where I am going to be. Sometimes I carry my Beretta 21. Sometimes I carry my Sig 230. Sometimes I carry my Glock 9mm or my Glock .40…and sometimes I stop screwing around and carry my Colt Commander .45 ACP. The point is, I am always heeled. Always.

    Now, here are some things to think about. Many years ago, when I was a prosecutor in the Pacific NW, the powers that be in the State of Oregon had done a case survey, and up until that time, which was about 1974 or thereabouts, as far back as such records had been kept, every civilian self defense shooting that had involved a fatality of a perp involved a .22. Every one…so, would I use a .22 to defend my life? Hell yes, if that was what I had. Would I be comfortable that I could get the job done with a .22LR? Again, hell yes. There are a whole lot of dead bad guys that have underestimated the deadliness of a .22.

    Now, is a .25 ACP about as effective as a .22 LR? Hell no. A .25 ACP is about as useful as a high velocity sling shot…except for the noise involved. The .25 has no energy to speak of. It transfers no kinetic force to the target. It has totally insufficient penetration. Basically, I would rather have a good blade than a .25 in a pinch.

    Here’s a little story to back up my point. Many years ago, probably before most of the readers were born, there was an incident involving a tourist visitor in San Francisco. He went out from his hotel (The St. Francis) for an evening stroll,and when he came back a few hours later, he was pretty badly beaten up. He declined help from the staff, and went up to his room, and after a while he called down for assistance, claiming he had a terrible headache he could not shake, and was spitting blood. The staff called an ambulance, and he was taken to the local hospital where he was X-Rayed. The X-Rays showed that he had no less than three (maybe four as I can’t recall the exact details) bullets lodged in his sinus cavity. Seems whomever had mugged him stuck a Browning .25 inside his mouth when he was unconscious and fired several rounds up through the roof of his mouth where they had all lodged without penetrating the brain pan.

    Had they been using a .22 LR he would have been dead. Check out the penetration tests for the .22 LR and the .25 ACP if you have any doubts. The .22 LR may only weigh 40 grains, but once it penetrates the skull, or the chest cavity, it bounces around inside and makes a hell of a mess.

    My final advice? If you can shoot it well, and if you are comfortable carrying it, the .22 LR will get the job done. I don’t know how many of the readers of this have actually been shot at, but I would think long and hard before I would give someone the chance to tag me with a .22 LR, even from a couple of hundred yards.

  11. Ken November 5, 2012 at 5:18 pm #

    My wife absolutely loves shooting with her little SR22 Ruger. She is so much more competent with it, than the Bodyguard 380 I encourage her to use (I use 9mm & 40 S&W).
    I feel she is more likely (and there are more people out there like her), that will gain from having many quickly-fired shots with decent accuracy, than something more powerful, and almost as a given, less practiced gun.
    We really don’t know, but the pharmacy man’s discharging of the weapon, hit, or not, may have refocused the attacker.

  12. Ken November 5, 2012 at 5:30 pm #

    25 auto as a defensive round thoughts:
    the sinus cavity story is anecdotal, that is, it isn’t scientifically backed by a direct comparison.
    25 acp CAN be deadly, and, as I have heard, it is much more reliable in small guns than the rim with its rim priming compound. Some people will give up a little power for absolute ignition and more reliable feeding.

  13. Jon Eirik Martinsen April 27, 2013 at 1:43 pm #

    Hi 🙂
    Here in Norway the law is hard.
    We cant hunt with airguns, or bow,s and every powder burner is registrated.
    Therfor…if somebody pull a .22 LR here…peopole will run…its a wepon, it will say bang, it will hurt as hell…and its not comon to cary wepons here…so a .22 Lr will totaly work as self defence here in Norway…and for the peopole who will not agree on this…listen to the question… will a .22 LR be ok for self defence??? yes it will…it will hurt peopole…but for stopping them perminantli…thaths murder…and maybe not posible…but hwo cares…it wil stopp peopole who robbing me here in Norway. and thats fine with me…. the law here is so stong that if somebody actualy robbing me, i cant fight back with anything…so a .2 LR are terifying here 😉

    Best regards from Norway

  14. jtmcculloch July 7, 2013 at 4:36 pm #

    In 1981 Hinckley attempted to assassinate President Reagan with a 22. 1 shot in the stomach dropped a secret service agent like a rock. 1 shot to the back of the neck dropped a police officer like a rock. Neither got up. 1 shot hit James Brady in the head, dropped him too. Did not get up. 1 bullet RICOCHETED off the car and hit Reagan on the left side under his arm in the chest. It hit a rib and went almost completely through his lung. The underestimated 22 will work for self defense very well.

  15. Jay November 20, 2013 at 4:12 pm #

    It’s funny how all .22 defense story’s are put off as luck. How manny times must the .22 work for sd befor people stop recommending something else.