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Legally Build an Unregistered AR-15

I mentioned yesterday that I think building your own AR-15 makes a lot of sense in the current political climate. Today I’m going to tell you why, and give you some resources to make it happen.

Current Gun Control Push

The current gun control push is mostly about “assault weapons”, the erroneous term politicians use to demonize semiautomatic rifles like the AR-15. Again, how successful the politicians will be is yet to be determined, but make no mistake, they do not want us armed and will not give up their agenda easily.

Their game plan is to, at minimum, ban these types of weapons, preventing anyone from legally purchasing one in the future, and then to force everyone who currently owns one to register it. And, as everyone who has studied the history of gun control knows, registration has always led to confiscation.

Let’s say, academically speaking, because I’m sure no one who reads my blog would ever break the law, that you wanted to avoid this potential situation? Here’s how you do it.

Unregistered Weapons

The trick is to have an unregistered/unserialized weapon, and specifically for this post, an unregistered weapon that you legally built yourself.

On an AR-15, the serialized portion of the firearm is the lower receiver. That is the only part that requires an FFL transfer (background check, etc) to purchase. Everything else can be purchased without an FFL, but without the lower receiver, these parts are just paperweights.

So in order to have an unregistered AR-15, you must have a lower receiver that does not have a serial number, and therefore does not require an FFL. The easiest way to do this is to get an unfinished lower receiver, also called an 80% lower receiver (I’ve also seen 95% lower receivers), and finish the receiver yourself.

What is an 80% Lower Receiver?

An 80% lower receiver is a partially completed piece of material that requires special tooling and skills to be completed and considered a firearm.

Legality

How can this possibly be legal?

Disclaimer

I’m not a lawyer and I don’t play one on the internet. Don’t listen to me, do your own research, call Mr. Colion Noir, blah blah blah.

Regarding the legality of building your own unregistered weapon, the following is from The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). I chose to do a screen capture in case this post is viewed in the future after the law has been changed. Click for a larger image.

ATF FAQ

So according to the ATF, this is perfectly legal, as long you don’t sell it or give it away to someone else. Any further questions regarding legality, see disclaimer.

How To Do It

Once you find an 80% lower receiver, how do you finish it so that you can use it in your AR-15 build?

This video from Ares Armor does a good job of explaining at a high level what you need and what the process looks like. There are more detailed tutorials online, like this one from CNCguns.com, that walk you through the steps required to finish your 80% lower receiver.

Additionally, if you live near Ares Armor in southern California, you can attend one of the Ares Armor build parties where you can build out your 80% lower receiver. The key point is that if you know how to build an AR-15, then you’re most of the way there.

Wrapping Up

Everywhere I’ve looked online so far is sold out of 80% lowers for months, so this isn’t something you’re going to be able to do this weekend. But it’s important to know that this is an option, if and when you can find the parts.

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103 Responses to Legally Build an Unregistered AR-15

  1. mark5019 January 8, 2013 at 12:56 pm #

    we dont regester our weapons here in ga

    • Brandon January 8, 2013 at 12:58 pm #

      Registered in the sense that there is a serial number, a record of the transaction with an FFL, etc.

      • Matt April 4, 2014 at 8:37 pm #

        Ive been looking everywhere, however I cannot seem to find out if this is legal in MA. People keep saying I would need to file an FA-10 form, but after reading up on the laws here its seems you only need that form if you bought, inherited, sold, or lost a gun. Any help?

  2. sunofnun January 8, 2013 at 1:08 pm #

    what about 3d printers and polymer lowers.. those can be manufactured with no special tooling and a basic understanding of the AR plaform! ;)

    • Brandon January 8, 2013 at 1:13 pm #

      coming soon to a public library near you LOL

    • Josh January 8, 2013 at 9:14 pm #

      Those haven’t been perfected *yet*. The only one that I know of that’s been tested with live fire broke after 30-40 rounds, but you can 3D print in metal as well, it just takes a more expensive machine. I don’t think they’re giving up.

  3. Michael Carl January 11, 2013 at 12:00 am #

    How does one get the various parts?

    • Brandon January 12, 2013 at 8:52 am #

      Various places around the internet if you can find them in stock.

  4. Justin January 12, 2013 at 10:36 am #

    How about the jig?

    • Brandon January 12, 2013 at 10:40 am #

      What about it? You mean where do you get it? Ares Armor sells it for one, but there are several others as well.

  5. Slag January 13, 2013 at 12:38 pm #

    ~The current gun control push is mostly about “assault weapons”,~

    Actually, it’s not about “Assault Weapons,” it’s about disarming the masses to better control us so we’ll be unable to resist the tyrannical forces our founding fathers warned us against which why the included the 2nd amendment in the constitution.

    • Brandon January 13, 2013 at 1:00 pm #

      I know, hence the quotes.

    • Nicolt February 2, 2013 at 4:40 pm #

      This “argument” is obsolete and ridiculous. You don’t resist tyrannical forces with AR15s because tyrannical forces have tanks, helicopters bombers and so on, that are immune to AR15 tiny tiny bullets

      • Justin February 2, 2013 at 5:13 pm #

        Of course you resist! What are you going to do submit? And I think your argument that the people couldn’t win is a little short sighted. The Taliban is doing pretty well with IEDS and 50 year old AK’s and they have to contend with drone strikes. It would have to get petty bad before they started doing bombs on us. Also at least half the military would not follow orders to fight fellow Americans. There are approximately 100 million gun owners in America, if only 20% joined the fight that’s still 20million to the approx 2 million military that might be left after those that chose not to fight their own men left their post and joined the militias side.

        • Justin August 2, 2013 at 7:34 pm #

          I wish that Slag was a voice on the news and he had you by his side to further back-up/explain to the masses, just what it is to have our freedom in question, and how we as americans have been granted the rights we have, to protect said freedoms!
          Which were put in place by a group of brilliant forefathers who possessed the clear foresight and understanding to predict the oppositions that we as a free people, in a free land, would eventually face.
          I love when intelligent & educated people make these arguments, it makes it much harder for the opposition to argue against us when they lose one of their main oppositional legs to stand on, being that all gun supporters are ignorant conservatives. Rubbish! I’m a liberal-independent, an American, a Patriot, and I believe that if you start taking away guns from the people the only guns left are in the hands of criminals and the government… Lose-Lose.

      • Rob March 15, 2013 at 3:12 pm #

        Well Nicolt, how DO you resist, then? The ballot box? LMAO. No, make no mistake this is how you resist.

      • jazondubya May 13, 2013 at 5:02 pm #

        Nicolt~
        IDK if you live in Syria, but here that is NOT the case. It takes soldiers to pilot those tanks, helicopters, and so on – soldiers who swore to protect their people, NOT to protect their government, and the majority of whom WILL NOT follow orders to oppress their own people. In that case, it’s pretty easy to resist a bunch of empty tanks and balls-less turncoats. A .223 should do it just fine. :-)

        Semper fi.

        • justin August 2, 2013 at 7:17 pm #

          so very true, there is also some comfort in your truth

      • David May 21, 2013 at 8:47 pm #

        You have to consider that half of the military would take the people’s side rather than attack them. Simply out of fear of the govt. The other half would stay and fight. Out of fear of the govt. That would leave us with half the military plus a measly 100 million gun owners.

      • Conrad Grigson May 26, 2013 at 6:07 pm #

        The 2nd amendment says nothing about just firearms it says arms, to find out what the founding fathers mean we have to go to the dictionary closest to that time period, which is the 1828 dictionary, which defines arms as a limb, a weapon, but it says nothing about firearms.

        • JCBoston69 June 10, 2013 at 2:14 pm #

          How about looking at the arms the Founders actually used? Why would you need a dictionary?

          • Scott June 24, 2013 at 11:58 pm #

            The founders were talking about muskets (which were top of the line in lethality then) and such, which is what the criminals and tyrants also had. So, yes you are right, they were actually talking about weapons.

      • Freedom September 23, 2013 at 4:27 pm #

        You, shall we say resist and then take what they have and work you way
        on up the ladder of success.

    • mark gilbert February 2, 2013 at 6:27 pm #

      whats an assult weapon? and yes you resist or die fighting

  6. Tiffy January 14, 2013 at 3:29 pm #

    Has anyone posted the cnc lines of code to finishing milling a lower from 80%?

    • Brandon January 15, 2013 at 9:00 am #

      I don’t know, but I’m guessing yes.

  7. atm January 15, 2013 at 7:00 am #

    Looks like according to the law you can make personal use suppressors as well.

  8. Rick Callahan February 8, 2013 at 3:05 am #

    More people have died from gun fatalities in the US since 1960 than all Americans killed in warfare, EVER. Think about it – 50 years of mere “freedom” has killed more Americans than every single war since the inception of our Nation. This is not hyperbole, it is a fact. If this ratio does not at least give you pause to think that yes, perhaps there are some steps we should take to prevent guns from getting into the hands of criminals, children, and the dangerous mentally ill then you are a completely invalid member of the argument. I’m an owner of half a dozen firearms, all legally obtained, used often, and safely maintained. No one seeks to limit the ability of people to own sporting and self defense firearms – only weapons designed to kill massive numbers quickly, an end to loopholes that allow purchases without background check, and straw-man purchases. Any rational person who cares about their fellow Americans, which we call patriotism, should support at a minimum pursuing ways to make these things work. But to just dismiss them whole cloth as “they’re ‘ttakin’ our freedoms” is willful ignorance. I happened upon this website via Stumbleupon because I have shooting sports and guns listed as an interest. But the fact that you post an article extolling the virtues of making your own weapon merely as a means of doing an end around of registration leads me to block your website as fringe and not for me.

    • Brandon February 8, 2013 at 11:19 am #

      So let me see if I understand you correctly: if I don’t agree with you, then I’m a “completely invalid member of the argument”? Got it.

      “No one seeks to limit the ability of people to own sporting and self defense firearms” – FALSE. I won’t even provide evidence, as you invalidated this claim on your own by saying “only weapons designed to kill massive numbers quickly”. Thanks for that.

      Please, by all means, block my website, and spare me your bleeding heart ignorance. Gun control does nothing to prevent crime, and you can be as arrogantly self-righteous as you want, but it doesn’t make you more right.

      • Doc Skinner June 30, 2013 at 1:11 am #

        Tough issue Brandon. Yes, more people have died from gunfire than from terrorist attack. It’s rough because we then have to watch liberties erode disproportionately based on a lessor statistic. And too I’ve no problem with firearm registration but still keep one eye on the registration list based disarmament scenario. I’ve watched freedoms steadily erode since the 70′s with dismay, as well as with the media pandering mass hysteria hand in hand with baby kissing polititians. That all being said, legally being able to roll your own personal use AR-15 lower makes me happy to live here again. Woof!

        • Brandon June 30, 2013 at 7:20 am #

          Doc thanks for commenting. What I don’t understand is where you say you don’t have a problem with firearm registration, yet “still keep one eye on the registration list based disarmament scenario” and “I’ve watched freedoms steadily erode since the 70′s”.

          Clearly you understand where this is heading, yet you don’t have a problem with it? The US look more totalitarian every day my friend. Don’t help them by supporting such nonsense.

    • TK February 8, 2013 at 11:24 am #

      Haha you must be a liberal.

    • Justin February 8, 2013 at 2:56 pm #

      AR-15′s have a sporting and a self defense purpose, you just choose to ignore that fact.

    • j c February 28, 2013 at 8:00 pm #

      Yeah, but how many more will die at the hands of armed criminals when law abiding citizens are unarmed? How will you pay for all the jails to hold people that refuse to give up their weapons…now becoming criminals themselves?? I was against firearms before I realized how uneven the playing field is for regular folks and highly armed criminals…plus I dont think the cops will help anyone in time, their too busy giving out tickets.

      • KC December 17, 2013 at 6:54 pm #

        I’m an officer for a small county. I agree with your statement that “I don’t think the cops will help anyone in time” as it is proven, and I won’t throw a statistic out there, but it is proven that officers are more likely to show up AFTER a crime has been committed. I don’t agree with your statement about it being because of tickets, as there are numerous other reasons why we can be late to ‘your’ call- proximity to your location, traffic, road & weather conditions ( I live where winters can be harsh), etc, etc ;). Also, if one truly looked at the numbers of officers on duty, much less available, vs the entire population, odds are that we may or may not show up on time, and if we do, we may or may not have backup, and other units may or may not be available for shit hitting the fan elsewhere. I, too, swore an oath to uphold and protect the CONSTITUTION, and the people that I serve. I, along with my whole department(only a handful of officers), have already stated that we would never enforce any new bogus restrictions on firearms. I, and my boss (Sheriff) whole heartedly agree that the people as a whole should be armed. “An armed society is a polite society.” I do think we need regulations for mentally unstable, and a few other reasons for not being allowed to carry, BUT on that same token, I realize that with those regulations, comes a slippery slope to just about everything becoming a reason to not allow us to carry. I therefore openly admit that I do not have an answer as to how to go about regulating that effectively. Lord knows banning things works so well. Fact of the matter is, criminals are called criminals for a reason. They break the law. I’ve never dealt with a criminal that had remorse or apprehension because a newly passed law, or a law on the books already for that matter. It goes across the board, that if a criminal wants something, ANYTHING, bad enough, he will get his hands on whatever it is he desires. ANYTHING can and has been used as a weapon. Let’s just regulate and ban spoons, knives, forks, piano wire, tree limbs, baseball bats, crow bars, screwdrivers, glass bottles, hammers, pillow cases, rope, water, and vehicles while we’re at it. Hell, lets make it mandatory that everyone lives in an environmentally controlled solid bubble, that only the federal government can make access to to feed us and wash us and tell us when and how it’s ok to poop.
        Ugh, I’m going off on a ranting tangent now, so I’ll leave it there. Just my .02.

    • Obrien Jamas March 9, 2013 at 7:46 pm #

      You are living in a dream world, Mr Callahan… First off, the vast majority of those killed with firearms are killed by common criminals who cannot be disarmed by gun control laws. Second, no attempt has been made to address the real problem, which is individuals who are clearly mentally disturbed, are not being treated or controlled, based on misguided liberal ideals that their right to privacy must be protected, no matter how many times they act out in a violent manner. Third, you have to be blind and totally brainwashed to believe that no one wants to limit ownership for sporting and self defense (aside from the fact that so called “ARs” are used for sporting purposes when individuals use them for target shooting). All you have to do is research the past statements of those who are pushing the current gun control agenda to see that the majority of them have made public statements in favor of stricter gun control than they are now proposing, but are just trying to do what they can incrementally. Perfect example is Senator Feinstein… She has made numerous statements in favor of stricter gun control, but now proposes to allow current owners to keep their ARs if they register them. If you know anything about how laws are made, you would know that a law can be passed today and a new bill can be introduced to change it again… So… Once a Senator like Feinstein who wants no guns owned by any civilian gets these ARs registered, a new law WILL follow at some point to put that new list to work, by collecting those rifles. And don’t think just because you allowed someone elses ARs to be taken, that your firearms are safe… She wants those too. As far as the usefulness of an “AR” in the US, you need only look to a major US city (Los Angeles), where several days of rioting resulted in at least 50 dead and over 1000 injured, as looters and armed thugs roamed the streets without police intervention and burned hundreds of businesses to the ground.

    • Phil March 15, 2013 at 7:45 pm #

      Check your facts Rick. Not true. More people have been killed in wars!

      • Michael Carl March 16, 2013 at 12:36 am #

        A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

        What part of ‘shall not’ are our Congress and Legislatures not getting? Or as the old song used to go, ‘What part of “No” don’t you understand?’

    • mark5019 March 15, 2013 at 10:02 pm #

      gee rick by your logic we should ban all cars because more people die from drunk drivers.
      tell you what you donr need to keep your rights ill fight for mine

      • Ray Ray August 14, 2013 at 12:50 am #

        oh banning things makes perfect sense,,, so no one should be allowed in water cause that will prevent drowning’s and shark attacks. We should also ban liquor, once that’s gone there will be no more DUIs, no more alcohol involved fatalities and think of all the unwanted pregnancies we could stop if people weren’t drunk. OMG! No alcohol would mean less unwanted children and less welfare. It would end underage drinking. I do like how Rick says he has guns but,,,, Sounds like Archie Bunker, I ain’t racist, I got me a colored living next door. By the way Rick, you used Obamas same approach to try an manipulate people to agree with you. Notice Rick voices his opinion and follows it with an insult if you don’t agree. Anyone with a Kindergarten education can see that if you don’t agree with me your not intelligent.

    • Michael Carl March 16, 2013 at 12:43 am #

      The facts show that every time gun control is imposed, violent crimes increase. During the first ‘Assault Weapons Ban,’ multiple shootings went up. England has a higher per capita violent crime rate than the United States. While I was in Heathrow Airport a few weeks ago, the lead story on the front page of the Daily Mail was about a young man being shot with a handgun. Now, So, according to the alleged intent of the law, this young chap shouldn’t have been shot because all of the handguns were supposedly surrendered to police. (The sheeple, law-abiding dutifully turned in their handguns. Within one year, the number of gun crimes increased. I’ve checked the stats.)

      Look at the proposed legislation before Congress. The present proposals before Congress, and in the Massachusetts Legislature, will only slow down the law abiding. Criminals don’t buy their guns at gun shops after going through a permit process and paying anywhere from $100 to $400 for a gun safety class.

    • PonyRunner March 25, 2013 at 2:56 pm #

      Actually more humans have been killed by abortion than gun crimes. I believe it is 56 million and counting. But that is beside the point.

      1st) Disarming law abiding citizens when it is the criminals that commit the crimes and don’t care a whit about gun laws is illogical at best.

      2nd) It is not the governments business of who owns what. If they know where the guns are then they can go get them at their leisure. If you are familiar with history you know this. Otherwise read up on Hitlers gun control program.

      3rd) It is not about sport shooting it is about defending yourself in case the government gets too big for it’s britches.

      4th) Finally, The 2nd Amendment states the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. What part of “shall not be infringed” is unclear?

      • Tired Of The Liberal Mindset April 19, 2013 at 4:36 pm #

        No need to read about Hitler. All the further you need to go is read how residents of New York city were disarmed. How did that happen you ask? The same gun registration technique that wasn’t going to be used to confiscate guns.

    • saul March 31, 2013 at 3:21 pm #

      totally agree let us get the gun legally, let us do a background check. stop this nonsense

      • mark gilbert April 9, 2013 at 6:33 pm #

        they allready do background checks

      • Conrad Grigson May 26, 2013 at 6:12 pm #

        Background checks should technically be illegal, criminals don’t go through em why should I?!!!

    • Frank steele April 9, 2013 at 3:52 pm #

      Talk about ignorant, “More people have died from gun fatalities in the US since 1960 than all Americans killed in warfare, EVER. Think about it – 50 years of mere “freedom” has killed more Americans than every single war since the inception of our Nation.” So the freedom to drive should be limited more too by this argument, since 20% MORE people have been killed in Automobile accidents.

    • Tired Of The Liberal Mindset April 19, 2013 at 4:32 pm #

      How many of those that died from gun shot wounds were criminals shot by police??? I love you people that throw out vague numbers in an attempt to justify your position. Then to block the website as ‘fringe’? Typical liberal that can’t or doesn’t want to see the world just past his ass.

    • JCBoston69 June 10, 2013 at 2:28 pm #

      “More people have died from gun fatalities in the US since 1960 than all Americans killed in warfare, EVER. Think about it ”

      Going by an inflated average of 40,000 a year, yeah, it’s 2.4 million people in that 53-year period. That’s twice the war death total.

      In Nazi Germany, where gun control was used by the government to disarm “undesirables”, the number of people slaughtered, unable to resist, was three times the number of gun deaths in the USA in 53 years, and SIX times the number of US war dead EVER, including those sent to stop that slaughter.

      Think about THAT.

      • JCBoston69 June 10, 2013 at 2:29 pm #

        Oh, I forgot…those Six million + slaughtered by the Nazis were all killed within FOUR years.

        • Jjohnny June 10, 2013 at 2:51 pm #

          And remember the 30 plus million killed by Stalin because they had no guns do defend themselves
          Remember the slaughtered in Philipines because they had no weapons to defend themselves
          Remember all the cubans killed by Castro because they have no right to have weapons
          Remember that the british now changed their minds and want their right to have weapons back, but is too late for them…
          Remenber that the canadians also want their right to have weapons back but is too late for them too
          The 6 million plus killed by nazis had no weapons to defend themselves
          55,000 Brazilians are killed every year in Brazil by armed criminals because the law abiding citizens gave up part of their rights to carry a gun outside of their homes
          Some people learn fast, some are slow learners and some pwople never learn
          I rather learn from other peoples pain than my own pain but this is just my opinion…

          • JCBoston69 June 10, 2013 at 3:21 pm #

            Well said, sir. So what we’ve learned (hopefully) is that the death toll where guns are legal is very high in real numbers, but very small relative to where guns are illegal.

            Another thing people need to realize is that guns are ubiquitous EVERYWHERE. Someone will have them. Who that is is determined by law. Where guns are legal, law-abiding, good people will have them to keep themselves safe. Where they are illegal, criminals and oppressive governments will have them to victimize the good people who gave theirs up.

    • Nobody February 19, 2014 at 7:34 pm #

      Here is a chart of “crime statistics” in NJ (where I live) since 1960. Note that it was fairly flatline until 1966 when NJ enacted “gun control” legislation that prohibited law abiding citizens from carrying firearms. Federally, “gun control” wasn’t begun until 1968. After 1966, NJ crime statistics start exploding exponentially. No, I believe the data doesn’t lie. Once a criminal knows the average citizen isn’t carrying, they have no fear of their own retribution during their crimes. I’m tired of the kool aid.

    • jack February 27, 2014 at 9:20 pm #

      Good – go away liberty hating knat

      • Jjohnny March 1, 2014 at 11:57 am #

        Put 350 million people together in any place war or peace does not matter and you will see someone getting killed, specifically the defenseless and unarmed, when comparing compare apples to apples, in a war people usually are trained and armed that is the reason less people die in wars than in time of so called “peace”….

      • Jjohnny March 1, 2014 at 12:24 pm #

        http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/njcrimn.htm

        Before and after “gun control”, noticed the increase in crimes AFTER the gun control laws ?

        Go figure…it is NOT about gun control it is about CONTROL, it is not about public safety because there are LESS safety after the gun control laws than before gun control laws, how can a politician or any other person explain it and keep gun control laws that are harming the people instead of protecting them ?
        Unless you are can see the future you will call the police AFTER the crime happened, only you can protect yourself and your family when and where the crime is happening…

        • Jjohnny March 1, 2014 at 12:47 pm #

          Based on this nonsense concept of gun control, the politicians should also ban parachutes from airplanes because “some people somewhere” died or will die because of parachutes not working properly.
          The only “control” that we need is over the politicians they are the ones out of control, we need to vote them out of their offices and replace them for new fresh ones, we must replace politicians and baby diapers for the same reasons….no more professional politicians nor dynasties, two terms and out, it is good for the presidency and should be good for any other elected officials.

  9. Wolf February 11, 2013 at 11:24 pm #

    I also just stumbled onto this site. I’m getting onto the “old” side now but I do know one thing. Those who give up freedom for security have neither. The 2nd Amendment protects the first Amendment. How often I have heard liberals spout about their freedom of speach while in the same breath willing to remove the 2nd Amendment without realizing there freedom is next. The bill of rights is not granted by the Gov’mint they are granted by God. There are now over 2300 gun laws on the books to subvert a God given right the specifically states “Congress shall make NO law infringing the right of the people to keep and bear arms . . . . ” 2300 times Congress has violated their oath of office, 2300 time a President has violated his oath of office. Each and every one should have been tried and convicted (except for the last one who isn’t even eligible to be in the office) yet “We the People” continue to reelect these tyrants, so who is really guilty?

    Thanks for allowing the wanderings of an aging American who can remember when we were a GREAT Country, it is so sad to watch it sink into the pit of immorality and dishonor. I would own a thousand firearms if I could afford it, but have to save some money for ammo and practice! God bless the USA and ALL the rights granted by him.

    • Brandon February 12, 2013 at 7:45 am #

      Glad to have you Wolf.

    • Rick February 26, 2013 at 2:02 pm #

      Wolf – Thouest makest things up. The 2nd Adm. does not specifically state “Congress shall make NO law infringing the right of the people to keep and bear arms . . . . ” Those first four words are from the First Ad, the rest from #2, though not in that order. Now infringing just a little bit is like being a little bit pregnant. Unfortunately the nose got under the tent a LONG time ago, so undoing the thousand of laws will be kind of hard.

    • PhillyD April 29, 2013 at 11:40 am #

      Those rights were not given to us by God Wolf. They are the Inherent rights that every humans has weather they believe in GOD or not, As soon as you are born. You still deserve freedom even if others think you are a heathen.

  10. MarioM March 6, 2013 at 3:11 am #

    Is there any way you can send me a list of items and were to get them and any tips for some one that has never done this befor and isnt to handy with tools Thanks for this your a life saver Iev been trying to buy one but theyer outa my price range theyer all going fo 3800 or so

  11. chris March 7, 2013 at 11:16 am #

    Actually quite a few gun deaths are caused by police and counted as a whole

  12. Bjm April 13, 2013 at 8:09 pm #

    Although it is true that hese weapons would be “untraceable” in reference to fire arms sold from an FFL with a serial number, they are by no means legal. It is intact illegal in most (if not all) states to simply posess a firearm without a serial number, regardless of whether it has been filed off or if it never had one to start. Does that mean you can’t put your own serial number on it? I don’t know, that would be a question for a legal expert, and I’m sure differse from state to state.

    • Brandon April 13, 2013 at 8:11 pm #

      According to the ATF, you are incorrect. But thanks for stopping by.

      • PhillyD April 29, 2013 at 11:55 am #

        Everyone knows more then the ATF…..

    • justin April 14, 2013 at 5:13 am #

      apparently BJM didn’t bother to read the article with the screenshot from the ATF

    • PhillyD April 29, 2013 at 11:55 am #

      You are completely wrong Bjm, I do engraving for a living and i have done my fair share of firearms. IF you make a gun yourself, it would never have a serial number given by the Manufactures. You MAY contact the ATF and have them issue you a number for any gun at any time. But in NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM is there a REQUIREMENT to have a number on a gun you built yourself. Not to mention if you put a wrong number on there that belongs to someone else you will get in worse trouble then having a blank gun. They cannot send you a complete receiver anyway, has to be 95% max finished (80% typical) and they don’t stamp incomplete pieces that is just a waste of serial numbers. But NO you cannot just make a up a number and put it on the gun. They will assume you are dodging registration or altered the original serial and more then likely arrest you. There are also 2 EXACT depths and Point sizes that the manufacture MUST use when numbering the gun as well as one I (As a private engraver) must use so that if you know anything about the guns you can use a depth gauge on the engraving and see which one was OEM Serial and which one was an aftermarket engraving.

  13. jw morris April 17, 2013 at 7:48 pm #

    All guns are capable being called assault weapons as they all can be use by a criminal to commit a assault. All law abiding citizens should be trained and carry firearms for there own protection maybe then the criminals would think twice before going in to shoot up a gun free zone!

  14. Johnny April 19, 2013 at 1:03 pm #

    We need more laws PROTECTING the second amendment, we need now to push back and demand laws at all levels, State and Federal, protecting and reinforcing the rights of law abiding citizens to buy, carry and use their weapons in any place as well as the right to access ammunition .
    A good tax exemption is also a good idea to allow access to guns to all those that qualify.
    I suggest that all gun clubs, ranges and gun shops to give incentives to current customers and associates and members to bring more members and visitors to expand the customer base of each of those clubs and ranges.
    Discount in membership for those who bring more than 2 new members and discounts to customers that buy one and bring a friend to the gun store or the range.
    It is time to be creative and expand the NRA membership base as well as increase the number of people familiarized with the use of a gun.
    Free classes or classes with discount for groups is also a good idea.
    Classes for school teachers and parents with kids in school specially mothers is a good idea too.
    Push back expand the customer base and membership base and we will have more citizens supporting the second amendment and do not forget to vote out of office those politicians that try to remove or reduce our second amendment rights.
    Less politicians in office against our rights more politicians in favor of our rights.
    Politicians only understand when you vote them out of office for good.
    We can also invite the ACLU to challenge the laws some States passed against the second amendment…..after all it is all about civil liberties or not ?
    It is time to use ACLU in our favor.

  15. Troy April 19, 2013 at 4:46 pm #

    so if i am reading that clip from the ATF FAQ above correctly it says i can also build a suppressor for my own personal use without the forms and $200 tax stamp?

  16. nutbastard April 20, 2013 at 2:54 pm #

    Troy – Pretty much everyone does say that you must fill out a Form 1 and pay $200. Often cited is USC Title 26 Chapter 53. IANAL so I have no idea how these two laws interact with one another.

  17. david April 29, 2013 at 8:12 am #

    The problem is we have been turned into slaves and here is how. And Btw most laws dont even apply to you if you understand a few key points.
    Do you really know your name? My records indicate i was first named Boy as per my arm bracelet, Then I was called my name with only the first letter capitalized on a hospital birth certificate. ( I was later forced to purchase a copy from the state i was born in).
    I now have a bank issued NOTE as a birth certificate showing only the first letters of my name through “heresay” capitolized. I have ssn cards with identical numbers but there is two different names. One appears with only the first letter capitalized and the other in all caps. Check your “drivers” licence it will appear in all caps. the point is this. Your labor was “converted” into dollars the Nation could use to function as a loan from the IMF therefore you were sold into DEBT SLAVERY against your labor hence the taxes. Look into roman law on the significance of which letters are capitalized. We gave them the power to do this look into OPPT and the UCC. Become your own representative of the state that God gave you, the state of you. fighting these clowns would be much easier in their own courts once you know how to represent yourself and “BIND” the true servants as they are elected by we the people and are your local police and court officer. I truly love the loop hole you have found and completely believe in loopholes but the truth is we were free from the moment we drew our first breath and only allow ourselves through lies and ignorance to not enjoy free will as long as you dont break the one golden rule being do no harm and dont interfre with others free will unless of case of bodily harm as you have the divine right to defend your life as you are the ambassedor of that which created you making YOU and only he has jurisdiction over you unless you do property damage or bodily harm. Common law. check out how to make a judge run out of the courtroom. good luck as we need eachother to turn this ship around. DO YOUR RESEARCH

  18. Ellis May 7, 2013 at 6:07 pm #

    Can i get parts from like stag arms and use them

  19. Johnny June 10, 2013 at 3:35 pm #

    Check why they want to take our weapons here:

  20. Johnny June 10, 2013 at 3:48 pm #

    Brits want their guns back ! Please tell CNN and Piers Morgan because they do not know….

    http://www.bizpacreview.com/2013/06/02/attention-parliament-brits-want-their-guns-back-74025?utm_source=June+2.2+BTW&utm_campaign=BTWJune3+2013&utm_medium=email

  21. Johnny June 10, 2013 at 3:52 pm #

    Yuri Bezmenov – Full presentation here :

  22. Johnny June 10, 2013 at 4:36 pm #

    Edward Griffin – Subversion of the Free Press – An Interview with ex-KGB Agent Yuri Bezmenov (1984) Full Length 1:21:11

  23. Johnny June 10, 2013 at 4:41 pm #

    http://balder.prio.no/armsglobe2/index.php

  24. Johnny June 10, 2013 at 4:56 pm #

    Yuri Bezmenov 1984 Full Presentation

  25. TEX June 22, 2013 at 4:07 pm #

    Them idiot candyass brits shoulda never gave ‘em up ! In the US if you ain’t willing to die to keep em you dont need ‘em.! TEX

  26. William Smith July 10, 2013 at 5:14 pm #

    Look at Chicago they have the strictest gun control laws in the country and the highest rate of gun crimes. All gun control laws do is let the criminals know that their victims are unarmed and not able to shoot back. That is unless it’s another gang-banger then they know they can shoot back, in that case it’s the citizens in the background and their kids who are being shot because the criminals don’t practice firearm safety they just spray and hope they hit the intended victim. They don’t care how many innocent lives they take are disrupt.

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  28. Doc Skinner July 31, 2013 at 1:39 am #

    If you are smart you will do your homework on building your own AR as obviously are those seriously reading this thread, so congrats.
    In the course of my research I have head comments about how an overenthusiastic and under-informed LEO will *freak* upon finding an unregistered weapon in your trunk. Even if you manage to blurt out line and passage that serial numbers only apply to commerce and not to equipment you build yourself well, perhaps one should make himself ready to be cuffed, jailed and your hunting rifle confiscated till they *confirm* your contention. Oh yes, do you have a receipt showing you yourself ACTUALLY bought the 80% lower? Wha no receipt? Oh Fun! If you own these kinds of weapons be ready for the hassle. so don’t invite trouble, don’t create it.
    I truly dislike LEOs who feel they are Gods gift to law enforcement. That also means if you are a minority and you get pulled over by a LEO of the same race then you MUST conduct yourself with the utmost discipline. If he finds an ‘unregisterred’ weapon in your trunk which he decides to search after you gave him even the slightest attitude, you are had.

    peace brother

    • KC December 17, 2013 at 7:10 pm #

      You truly are a piece of work. You, along with many other brainwashed individuals have no idea how LEO’s operate, or go through on a daily basis. You are just like every other sheep in the flock fed by whatever flavor of “news” media outlet you bite onto. Those ‘LEO’s’ you speak of are of a minority in the whole collective occupation. There is a much smaller minority of crooked LEOs, than you would find among child molesting clergy. The only reason you hear so much about the bad apples, is because of your so called “news” outlets. These are not actual news providers, they are merely COMMENTATORS, providing their OPINION of the ACTUAL NEWS. They whoopdido this and whoopdida that, because they know a shit story sells better than a true story. LEOs have to play by the rules, believe it or not, and contrary to recent belief. I’m sorry you had a bad experience with a LEO. If you do get caught by a LEO, for anything, and you truly think you are innocent, FIGHT IT. That is what the system is there for. I know, I know, they’re just as crooked as Conrad Copper down the road, but you know what, everyone has to abide by the rules, civilian, officer, judge. If the officer was truly in the wrong, the judge will do the right thing, because ultimately, his ass is on the line too. Go out to pasture, your flock is wandering.

  29. JCBoston69 September 24, 2013 at 10:40 am #

    So you think your government would use tanks, helicopters, bombers, and so on to fight resistance? There would be a LOT of “collateral damage”, don’t you think?

    I’m thinking a revolution against tyranny would force them to fight the old fashioned way, boots on the ground.

  30. D H Brown September 26, 2013 at 4:43 pm #

    RE: The Unregistered AR15 Build – by The Mad Duo on January 12, 2013
    Read more: http://kitup.military.com/2013/01/the-unregistered-ar15-build.html
    Kit Up!
    Have had the Ares Armor 80% build on order for over 8 months since 01/13/13 and no fulfillment yet (they also took the money on order and before shipment.). They keep making excuses as to why they can’t or promises that they will. Beware!!! Order and you may never see the product ever or your money again. You’ve been warned.

    • Brandon September 26, 2013 at 4:47 pm #

      Sorry to hear that.

  31. James October 2, 2013 at 10:22 pm #

    Well i`ve been waiting too, and i am trying to be heads up with this/ You people remember RONALD REAGAN. now l`m noy a dem/ar rep but i remember when RONALD closed the mental hospitals and started safe house in houseing tracks. A lot of your trouble started then, and with ihese 3rd,4th,22 what ever you call`em i wish they spent 2 months in the service not being a pincel pusher. in the jungal then they would have a different feeling about gun laws. i lost an aem an leg in vet nam so don`t talk lets take our rights ——– crap

  32. Mike October 25, 2013 at 12:46 pm #

    Excellent article. A friend and I just built one exactly like this and it came out great. Helps he has a nice metal shop and a great knowledge of AR’s and firearms in general. This is the way to go, especially in Cal.

  33. JCBoston69 December 18, 2013 at 8:11 am #

    You basically call someone an idiot for buying into the media perception of police, then you yourself proudly buy into the media perception of clergy. Very nice. No hypocrisy there.

  34. Mike February 14, 2014 at 9:38 pm #

    In response to slow police response, there is a joke about a senior citizen who called the police when he heard an intruder entering his storage shed in his yard. After 15 minutes with no police response, he called back and said, “Cancel my earlier call, I just shot the intruder dead.” Within 3 minutes he had 4 squad cars responding to his second call!

    • 1 February 15, 2014 at 2:24 am #

      Perhaps in a large city, but not in a sparsely covered county. Our vehicles can still only go so fast no matter what new information is given on a call. :)

  35. JC17 February 25, 2014 at 7:14 pm #

    For the brain-dead lemmings that think gun control is a good thing. Euthanize yourselves now before your beloved politicians do it for you. Because if they have their way the earths population would be no more than 500,000 or something like that. That means more than 6 billion people need to or should go in their minds. Guess who falls into that category meat head. YOU. And I. And even our families, both immediate, and extended. Now I don’t know about you but I’m willing to die for my family, rights, and those of my future descendants. But then again I was born and raised an American. Go back to Oz and get being your curtain. Or simply wake up. Its time.

    Molon Labe… Come and take them…

  36. JC17 February 25, 2014 at 7:43 pm #

    Btw the states with the strictest laws on guns are the usually the ones where cops tend to abuse their power, criminals are a dime a dozen from identity theft to break-ins, and just all around places where most people need to have the proverbial “orange” state of awareness in order to make it safely to one’s respective destination. I’m a firm believer that if you know I have a gun and I know u have a gun I’ll be more willing to agree to disagree then run the risk of being sent to my maker for an issue that usually is based on opinion. As they say, opinions are like a-holes, everybody has one and they all stink. Examples of things that aren’t , however, are those 14 rules of living that made it possible for these morons to be able to run for office in a country that was founded based on unfair taxation and the threat of disarmament. U don’t wish to fight for your freedom that is perfectly fine by me just don’t look for coat tails to hang on when the revolution to make this country a democratic republic again begins. You will find that they only coats will be one by the same that wore them in 1776

  37. Joe March 2, 2014 at 6:44 pm #

    I’m not sold on this post, what about this?…….

    AATF Publication 5300.4

    Revised September 2005

    TF Publication 5300.4

    Revised September 2005

    § 5822 Making.

    No person shall make a firearm unless

    he has (a) filed with the Secretary a written

    application, in duplicate, to make and

    register the firearm on the form prescribed

    by the Secretary; (b) paid any tax

    payable on the making and such payment

    is evidenced by the proper stamp affixed

    to the original application form; (c) identified

    the firearm to be made in the application

    form in such manner as the Secretary

    may by regulations prescribe; (d) identified

    himself in the application form in such

    manner as the Secretary may by regulations

    prescribe, except that, if such person

    is an individual, the identification

    must include his fingerprints and his photograph;

    and (e) obtained the approval of

    the Secretary to make and register the

    firearm and the application form shows

    such approval. Applications shall be denied

    if the making or possession of the

    firearm would place the person making

    the firearm in violation of law.

  38. Steve March 23, 2014 at 9:33 pm #

    This is about “Machine Guns” Joe

    “Joe I’m not sold on this post, what about this?…….

    AATF Publication 5300.4
    Revised September 2005
    TF Publication 5300.4
    Revised September 2005
    § 5822 Making.”

    - NFA weapons are: machine guns, sound suppressors (a.k.a. silencers), short barreled shotguns, short barreled rifles, destructive devices and “any other weapons”. Exactly what these weapons are is defined in the law, as well as in court cases interpreting the law. Without going into to much detail, these are what the categories encompass: 

    - Joe your search is I’ll informed. 

    Here’s a case that’s happening now in LA. 

    “According to court records, the defendants operated shops in Sacramento and Fresno and manufactured and sold AR-15-style pistols and rifles. The defendants did not have a license to manufacture or sell firearms. Further, the defendants sold firearms without filling out required ATF or BOF firearm transaction reports or subjecting the buyer to a background check or waiting period. In addition, as an illegal alien and a felon, the defendants were prohibited from possessing firearms.

    **** According to federal law, a person may manufacture a firearm for personal use without including a serial number on the firearm, provided that the firearm is not sold or transferred to another person. Otherwise, to manufacture a firearm requires a license from ATF. A firearm that is transferred to another person must bear a serial number.”

    Please do your research before you post. 

    Thank you. 

    • Joe March 24, 2014 at 12:00 pm #

      Part of discussion is a person’s way to research. Although I appreciate you helping me understand the topic, I don’t think it’s necessary to tell me my post is not pertinent or justifiably critical, or to imply that I am not to question your info unless I did some kinda research. Which I actually tried to do. I would just like to be undeniably convinced of this “loopgold”. Try not to get so insulted when someone asks for a little more evidence on something that can get you put in a pen for half your life.

  39. Joe March 24, 2014 at 5:28 pm #

    By the way, who are you? I’m only interested in the authors comments.

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